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Old 03-04-2006, 04:32 PM
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Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

Ok, so you bought yourself a PC (G100a) to keep your car looking its best, and after a little use, you realize that the once clean foam pads you had at $11 a pop are getting a little saturated with product and it's time to do something about it.
While there is no official way of cleaning the pads for reuse, there are a few suggestions.

1.)Use a rotary buffer and a toothbrush
2.)Use a Microfiber towel held over the PC to absorb product
3.)Throw it in the washer

We're going to cover an alternative to Option #3 here.
While washing a few pads in the washing machine sounds like an ideal solution, it does waste a lot of water for a few pads and not to mention the potential of grease and other chemicals in the pads transfering to the clothes you normally wash! That is sure to cause friction with your significant other!

Some people get around the last hurdle by utilizing an old washing machine and dedicate it to pad cleaning, but that still consumes electricity and water, so how about utilizing a small portable washer instead?
The washing cycle on the "Wonder Washer" runs for 10 seconds in one direction. Pauses for 2 seconds, then reverses direction for 10 more seconds. Surprisingly it moves a significant amount of water. I find that I can comfortably wash 6 pads, while 10 pads is pushing the limits of capacity. It still works, but you may need to help it along by watching the load to ensure the pads as always fully submerged.

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a fan of products hawked on infomercials. In fact every "As Seen On TV" product that I've ever tried has proven to be worthless and was something written off as a poor late night judgement! So I went in with a bit of hesitation with this product.

With just water in the washer, you can see that it moves it pretty well.

The unit begins like this. The lid is held on by turning it clockwise.

Once inside, the base is stored here.

Under the base, you can see the vanes that push the water around.

The whole unit reminds me of a large blender

The bottom of the bucket

Adjustable 15 minute timer on left, 2 speed settings on right. There isn't a noticeable difference between Standard and Gentle. More experimentation is needed.

There are two water levels here. 10L and 7L

There are capacity levels with each water level

Filling up is easy from the tap. Use warm/hot water for maximum cleaning capability

I chose 3 pads for my first test. Two heavily soiled W-8006 pads and one W-9006 pad. They were stored inside of a plastic container and got deformed over time, being saturated and pressed up against each other.

I decided to try some carpet cleaner first because I had good results with this in the past. It does cost more than normal detergent though. This bottle was around $8 from Target.

I measured out about 4OZ, then poured it into the water

Then I placed the pads inside. I had to push them down so they would soak up the water and sink to the bottom.

Make sure the right speed control is OFF. Then I set the timer to 15 minutes.

While the lid should normally be fastened to prevent splashing, I removed it for these pictures. Almost immediately the water turned cloudy from the chemicals

15 minutes later it looked like this

I poured the water out through the lid

You can see what it looked like after the dirty water was removed

I then poured in clean cool water to run a rinse cycle

Now you can see the pads here. Pretty dramatic difference from


So I decided to clean some more, here is my next batch.
15 Minutes Later


Ok so that worked pretty well. The W9006 pad didn't clean as well as the W-8006 pads. Maybe that's the M21 at work, which I use those pads for.

I decided it's time to try some of my Microfiber towels that I clean my wheels with.

I used this detergent in hot water

15 Minutes Later

All but the dirtiest one came clean

So I ran it once more

Much better but not perfect
I hung them to dry

By morning they were dry and ready for use.
To dry the pads, I remove as much excess water as possible. I do this by folding the pad in half--so the velcro side is now inside the taco. I wrap an Absorber towel around this taco, and wring it. Any excess water comes out of the foam pad, and when I release it, instead of being sucked back inside the pad, it goes into the Absorber and the pad is now very dry.

Then I can place them outside in the sun. It's a good idea to turn them over after a few hours and dry from the bottom since the velcro side likes to hold water.



Here's the final batch of pads to clean today. I decided to use the same laundry detergent as mentioned previously.
BEFORE

AFTER

While from the photos the W-9006 pads still look the same, I could tell they were noticably cleaner. Maybe a different detergent is needed to remove M21.

CONCLUSION
After the washing cycle, because there is no SPIN cycle, so you will need to empty the dirty water, and run it again with clean water to rinse the pads.

Or, you can just rinse them under running water. This unit won't prevent you from getting wet, and for some, soaking overnight, or washing by hand is simple enough, but I like this solution because it minimizes contact with the pads--since flowing water is used to clean them--no scrubbing or wringing needed during cleaning.

Although it's easiest enough to use this product for cleaning pads as a 'set it and forget it" deal, I would advise not letting it soak beyond the 15 minute cycle so it doesn't sit there soaking up the dirty water. An alternative method is to simply remove the pads near the end of the cycle and rinsing it off immediately.

I paid $39 for my Wonder Washer from Harbor Freight.
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:58 AM
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

Awesome. I get 20% off coupons from HF all the time via email. This may be something I might have to try
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

great write up!

something i do after something similar is put the pad on the rotary buffer and spin them dry for a bout 1 minute on very fast. No more drying required
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Old 03-05-2006, 07:43 AM
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

I didn't even think about that, great tip Paul! Does the water in the velcro backing of the pad get removed too? Since its sandwiched by the backing plate and foam, just wondering if that has any place to go. I'm going to try it today.

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I received a flyer in the mail about the washer. I don't think its a regularly stocked item. It doesn't show up in any searches on their website, and the newspaper ad had a Lot# instead of a normal stock number. I believe the sale goes until March 13. Its $39 instead of $59.

A quick Google seach shows that most online retailers are selling it for $59. I did see a few at $39, but that's before shipping.

So good luck to you.

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great write up!

something i do after something similar is put the pad on the rotary buffer and spin them dry for a bout 1 minute on very fast. No more drying required
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:35 AM
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

Hi Richard,

First I would like to thank you for taking the time, energy and spending your own money to test out this portable washing machine for cleaning pads. Anyone that uses a dual action polisher will quickly realize that pad saturation is problem associated with the normal use of this tool.

Because of the growth in popularity of this tool it was only a matter of time before a critical mass built-up to the point where individual, serious enthusiasts like Richard began to experiment and try to find a better way to clean and maintain their foam pads for continued use because it's not cost-effective to purchase a new pad every time your current collection of pads become saturated with product.

Just to note, backing plate saturation is also a problem as product works its way through the foam pad and builds up on the Velcro on the backing plate also.

So anyone that knows me knows I'm all for creativity and new ideas and pushing the envelope to new boundaries, that said I also am compelled because of my employment with Meguiar's to point out that currently Meguiar's doesn't recommend washing their foam pads and if you should decide to push the envelope and try new ideas like this and then also share them on public forums, it is entirely a project of your own and should not be seen as an official recommendation by myself or Meguiar's.


I just wanted to make that point clear and I hope that everyone will understand and see the point I'm trying to make while being fair to all parties.
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I have never liked the "As Seen On TV" stuff either, but it looks like this thing really works. Nice write up!
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

You're welcome. Surprisingly there is very little info on the net that I could find through either Google or Yahoo about the product. Every search result kept coming up with stores selling the product, not actual users.

The motor was pretty powerful, but does have its limitations. But for our purposes for dirty pads which don't weigh very much, it worked great. Definitely was more effective in 15 minutes than any other pad cleaning method I'd tried. I'm going to try the "Spin Dry" method that Paul mentioned above. If that works well, then this combo will be a very effective and fast pad cleaner--that's of course not recommended by Meguiar's--so it's a Do It At Your Own Risk type of thing!


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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

So I took Pauls advice and the rotary worked great for "Spin Drying" the pads. I did have to use the Absorber to dry out the Velcro backing. I dried it as best as I could before running the rotary and once again after removing the pad.

I put the rotary on Speed 6 (3000rpm). It was a little unnerving running the buffer without the pad being in contact with anything at that high RPM, but the velcro backing held without any problem.

It took between 30 seconds to 1 minute for it to dry. Since the water spun from the center to the edges in some cases, I just pressed the Absorber around the edges (after spinning)--about 1" in from the outside edge, and squeezed it in between the Absorber for a few seconds, then made my way around the pad.

The result was a pad that was very dry! Even pads that were sitting in the sun the day before that "felt dry" still shed some water.

I have yet to try this technique with a freshly washed pad, but I'm pretty confident that it would be just as effective, thus giving the ability to clean pads without worry of not having any available for use at a moments notice.
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

Also Richard, if I may, putting the pad on the rotary and putting it in a bucket will catch the water and keep it from flying all over the place, and you.
Just set the machine on the edge of the bucket with the pad down inside. If the pad does come off it will just fall in the bucket.
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Re: Wash PC Pads and Keep Spouse Happy!

Great advice! Heh heh, uhm I did get a little wet. LOL

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Also Richard, if I may, putting the pad on the rotary and putting it in a bucket will catch the water and keep it from flying all over the place, and you.
Just set the machine on the edge of the bucket with the pad down inside. If the pad does come off it will just fall in the bucket.
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